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Could Toxic Mold be a Problem for You? [Podcast with Bridgit Danner]

We take in these micro toxins that some strains of mold emit and we breathe them in through our nose and that information goes right to the brain. It goes directly to the brain. And there just isn’t much conversation about it.

My mission on the PCOS Diva podcast is to help you get to the root cause of your PCOS symptoms. I know this can often feel like a complicated hormonal puzzle to solve.

Mold toxicity is one possible root cause you may not have thought about.

I sat down with mold expert, Bridgit Danner and asked her to teach us how toxic mold affects our bodies. If you are struggling with chronic health issues that just won’t go away, tune in to explore this important topic.

What you will learn:

  • Common health symptoms of mold illness
  • How to identify signs of mold in your home
  • What’s involved in home remediation
  • Home testing for mold toxicity (environmental and physical)
  • Toxic mold detox techniques that really work

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Resources mentioned:

PCOS Diva Podcast: You, Your Partner & PCOS: A Fertility Puzzle
Bridgit Danner
The Toxic Mold Masterclass
Hormone Detox Shop

Bridgit Danner was working as an acupuncturist in Portland, Oregon when her health started to deteriorate. She learned a lot, tried a lot of things, and even completed a functional health coaching program in an effort to heal herself and become a better practitioner.

Although several things kind of helped, nothing helped completely, and she hit rock bottom in the winter of 2014. Soon after she discovered toxic mold in her 100-yr old home and began the long journey of home and body repair.

Bridgit got into the natural medicine field in 2000 as a young environmentalist. She practiced as an acupuncturist and integrative clinic owner for 13 years, performing well over 10,000 sessions, before transitioning to the online space as a functional health coach and educator. 

Bridgit loves to teach about everyday detox, functional living, and toxic mold illness at bridgitdanner.com. She is also the founder of a line of detox supplements called Functional Detox Products. Her Instagram handle is @bridgit_danner.

Complete transcript:

Amy:

I’m thrilled to welcome back Bridgit Danner on the PCOS Diva podcast. Bridgit and I talked about fertility way back in, I think it was 2015, on episode 39. It’s entitled You, Your Partner, and PCOS: A Fertility Puzzle. But since then, Bridgit has gone through quite a journey that she’s going to share with us today. I’ve been looking for somebody to talk to us about mold and what that does to hormones and health. And boy, I think Bridgit, with her story, is the perfect person to talk to us.

Amy:

So just to give you a little background about Bridgit, she was a working acupuncturist when she discovered toxic mold in her home and she began the long journey of home and body repair. She is the author of the new book, Ultimate Toxic Mold Recovery Guide. She’s also the founder of a line of mold supplements called Functional Detox Products and you can find out more about Bridgit’s work at bridgitdanner.com. But Bridgit, thank you so much for coming back on the PCOS Diva podcast.

Bridgit:

Hi, Amy. I can’t believe how long ago I was on. This is totally taking me down memory lane to when we met and we were in the women’s health space. Yeah, I completely didn’t know in 2015 I had a mold issue, but it was in my hormones, which is something I’m pretty passionate to talk about now because I think that root cause is just going unknown for many women like me. So thank you so much for having me back on.

Amy:

I’m so glad that you’re on the other side of this. I know that when we had talked back then, you had shared that you were moving out of your house temporarily and things were just sort of chaotic. Would love for you to just share what all happened back then and how it brought you to write this book, Ultimate Toxic Mold Recovery Guide.

Bridgit:

Sure. So let me think what year… I guess in 2007, I moved in with my fiance, and I was starting a business and we were anxious to have a family. I was anxious because I was 33. I thought that was really old. So I moved into this house, and it was a typical Portland, Oregon house. It was old and wooden and whatever, I didn’t really think anything of it at all. And then I opened a bigger clinic, and I got married, I had a baby, so I had a lot going on.

Bridgit:

So after I had my son and some things started to go sideways in my health, I really just thought it was stress and my hormones. I was having anxiety, insomnia. I think those were my first two, which you could definitely think is postpartum. I had increasing digestive issues, increasing cold and flu frequency, chills all the time, having to take hot baths all the time, breakthrough bleeding with my cycle. So, again, I had no idea mold could be involved.

Bridgit:

So I was getting life coaching, changing my diet, learning about things like the adrenal glands and functional medicine, and just chipping away at trying to improve my health. I also had chronic back pain. things would get better and then worse and I really didn’t know why. I did discover some things, like Epstein-Barr Virus, that I worked on. So everything helped kind of, but ultimately nothing’s going to help if you’re still in a home that’s toxic to you.

Bridgit:

So I guess if I had moved out of my home, I think that was more 2016, but anyway, I got really sick. I really hit a low where I had strep throat, I didn’t recover from that. I was just exhausted and I was doing detoxes, I was getting IV therapy and I was just so tired. This was when I started moving my practice online so I was home all the time, so that’s a clue. And some naturopaths asked me about my home. That was really smart of them. They said, what has changed in your home? And one thing that came up was our basement. It had always been musty, had some water intrusion and they suggested having a mold inspection. So we did.

Bridgit:

And honestly, Amy, I resisted. My husband at the time was the one pushing it because I knew it was going to be a whole big problem if we did have mold. So we did have the inspection, we did have mold. So then we started the whole process of remedying the house and moving out, like you said. Honestly, we made a ton of mistakes in that process and I got way sicker. That was really when I hit my lowest, when the house was ripped up and we were still in it and my eyelid was always twitching. I couldn’t remember things at all, my short term memory was completely shot.

Bridgit:

I was so tired at that point that I just wanted to die. I had never had that kind of thought in my head before, but now I can kind of know what some people must be going through. I think I was just so exhausted on such a deep level that I didn’t want to wake up in the morning and have to do it all over again. I didn’t really want to die, actually. I just was so tired that I just didn’t want to keep going sometimes. So it’s just like my brain would make that thought in my head like, oh, wouldn’t it be nice if we could just not wake up tomorrow? And it scared me.

Bridgit:

So that was my lowest, but we did crawl out of it. We sold that home after we fixed it up. We ended up moving to Arizona. I learned a lot about detoxification. I really had to rebuild all my body systems, which is what I help people do now who are also going through the same thing.

Amy:

So I think a big part of having PCOS is everybody’s root cause, I think, could be a little bit different. Some people are dealing with insulin resistance. A lot of women are dealing with inflammation, that’s a trigger of a lot of the PCOS symptoms. And I think it’s important to, rather than just treat the symptoms, is figure out what the root cause is. And I think for some women it could be, maybe not the end all be all cause, but the mold issue and environmental exposure to mold could be one of those issues that’s really causing your hormones to go haywire. What would you think?

Bridgit:

Yeah. Yeah. I definitely do. And, again, in my own story with breakthrough bleeding, low hormone levels, PMS, I never in a million years would’ve thought, oh, this is mold. I just didn’t really know about mold. I don’t think it’s every woman, Amy. As you know, there’s so many causes, there’s so many factors and they all mix together too. But now that I know what I know about mold toxins and how they affect the body, there are so many ways that it can affect our hormones. So the one I find the most fascinating is mostly we take in these micro toxins that some strains of mold emit and we breathe them in through our nose and that information goes right to the brain. It goes directly to the brain.

Bridgit:

You can kind of picture going through the nose, into the center of your head, and what’s there? Your hypothalamus pituitary access. These mycotoxins can travel into the brain, they can travel anywhere they want, they have a free pass in your body, and your hypothalamus pituitary can become inflamed. And then it doesn’t work correctly, basically. So for me, that was low hormone levels. Like grandma levels, when I would get tested. For other women, because some of these mycotoxins have an estrogenic effect, like many other types of toxins, they will end up high estrogen. Estrogen dominant. It also affects the way you feel full and that can increase your weight, which is one of the ways it increases your weight. So then if you’re carrying extra weight, that can be more estrogen. It definitely is going to affect your microbiome and break down your microbiome and make it an improper balance.

Bridgit:

And then when you’re trying to detoxify estrogen through your stool and your intestine, now that’s not working. So you can become estrogen dominant in that way as well. Your cells themselves can become inflamed on the cell wall and so then hormone information isn’t getting into your cells. I think it’s just such a fascinating topic because there are so many ways it can cause hormone disruption for you for fertility too. And there just isn’t much conversation about it. So I’m so thankful to be able to come on platforms like this and just start to get people curious about, especially if you’re not getting better, could this be a mold issue?

Amy:

So if somebody’s listening and they’re thinking, gee, you know what? My basement smells a little musty, could it be mold in my house that could be causing some of my PCOS symptoms or some of my health issues? Where do you go from there?

Bridgit:

Yeah. So I guess a first thing to think about and question is just the history of your home and things have that have happened in there. Did you have a dishwasher flood while you were on vacation? That’s a bad one right there, because everything needs to be fixed within 48 hours. And if it’s sitting, it’s going to start to cause a problem even if you go back and fix it later. So the remediation has to be done really carefully. So yes, musty smells, high humidity, film on things. It’s kind of different than dust, but our basement definitely had some film on objects because that was mold growing, especially on the underside. You may see at your baseboards little signs of water damage, or little tiny signs of mold. What are some other things? If your gutters are pooling near your home, if you’ve never serviced your roof, if that’s something you’ve neglected, which are happening more and more, and there was any kind of water intrusion issue, including snowstorms. Sometimes as the snow is melting, you’re going to get issue there.

Bridgit:

It can be homes build too tightly too, but usually there’s just some issue with water that shouldn’t be there. And it’s interacting with your drywall and your carpet and the studs in your home. And as that water sits, mold can grow. And I just learned from one of my expert friends that it grows in these stages. So he’s really emphasizing it doesn’t so much matter which strains you have of mold, it matters that there is a water damage issue in the home that either is now existing or wasn’t remediated correctly when it happened.

Bridgit:

So those are a few things to start thinking about, and same with your workplace. Mostly you’re going to get more affected in your home because you’re there more, but I just have a client who had breast cancer. I think she was diagnosed in 2016 and she’s still working in the same hospital. She did decide to test for mold, just kind of for her own curiosity and had it. And she didn’t know where it came from until we started talking about her workplace and that there have been toilet floods and roof leaks that just, again, weren’t taken care of correctly. That floorboard wasn’t cut out.

Bridgit:

So she works 40 plus hours a week in that environment. So I’m having her do some plate testing. Plate testing is a cheap way to start, especially in a place like your workplace where you don’t want to spend a lot of money. So I’m having her do some plate testing with a company called ImmunoLytics. I think that’s good for small areas like a car or a cubicle or if you’re on a budget and you’re renting, plate testing can be a place to start. So people are often curious, like testing but there’s actually a lot of options.

Bridgit:

If you’re a home owner, like we were, I think getting a local inspector is a good idea because they’re not just going to look for mold spores or toxins. They’re actually going to tell you how your building is compromised, which is what he told us. He gave us a whole nice report. It’s not cheap, but it’s kind of the right way to go about what could potentially be a repair job. So there’s that option. And then there’s some other testing with collecting dust. There’s a couple different options there that can be helpful. But yeah, I think it’s important because people can get a little caught up in which test is best for the home. Again, stepping back and knowing what is the damage to the home and if there is some, how will we address it? Rather than just being like, okay, I took this dust test. It shows some mold. Now what? You still have a whole next layer to uncover if that’s all you know.

Amy:

So do you have the list of those tests on your website, bridgitdanner?

Bridgit:

Yeah. We have a blog and an ebook with those. There’s one newer test that I just found out about recently. But yeah, we can maybe add that, but yeah, it gives you a good place to start.

Amy:

So if you’ve done some of these tests, you’re having some symptoms, then what? Is there a test that you can take, like a biological test or functional medicine test that tells you whether you’ve been exposed to mold?

Bridgit:

Yeah. Thankfully there is now, there was not 20 years ago, but there’s a urine test. It’s an at-home test. Two or three companies, for sure, at least three I can think of, offer it. Sometimes you may have to get it through a practitioner and other times it could be direct access and it’s just a urine test. We have you do a little bit of a challenge to try to increase some detoxification before you take the test just with a fast or using a sauna just to try to kind of make sure you’re pushing some things out into the urine. It’s a mycotoxin test. So it’s testing for… The one we use is about seven classes of mycotoxins that come from most toxic species of mold. So there are actually only about 13 toxic species of mold, but they emit hundreds of different mycotoxins. So really, as long as we’re catching something, I know you’re dealing with a toxic mold problem.

Bridgit:

Occasionally, it’s from an old exposure. It’s actually not your current place. You just still haven’t cleared out what’s in your body. I’d say that’s less common, but it definitely can happen. And a lot of people think back to where they lived in college and a lot of people lived in bad situation.

Amy:

Oh my gosh. Yeah.

Bridgit:

Hopefully not your son right now. Yeah. So it just amazed me when I first started to find these and I’m like, really? Usually it’s probably not 20, 30 years ago, but I did see a woman who was in a moldy house in California, never took care of her health afterwards. Just sort of went back to life and she still was carrying around microtoxins I think it was like three years later. So it’s very eye opening to me to see that and then that really answers the question, do you need to actively detox? And the answer is yes, because you can just kind of keep carrying around that stuff and recycling it inside of you for a while, apparently. So, we recycle our bile, which is where toxins should be coming out into the stool. So we can recycle those microtoxins back in, which is why one of the most popular supplements in the mold world is called a binder. So it chemically or physically binds up some toxins in the stool so that you poop them out instead of recycle them back in.

Amy:

So I know people use binders for other things like heavy metals. Would it be a similar type binder, like say clay, or I know I’ve been kind of experimenting with zeolite, which is kind of a volcanic pulverized stone, I guess.

Bridgit:

Yeah.

Amy:

Yeah. So tell us about those binders and what you recommend.

Bridgit:

Yeah. So there’s usually two approaches. One would be a rotation approach where you say, now you’re using just zeolite like you are now, but then maybe you’re going to use charcoal another month or chlorella is another binder. Or there’s the concept of mixing them together to kind of have a synergy. So different binders have different affinities for different things, whether it’s a certain heavy metal or a certain microtoxin, they’ve done some of the study now, which is super interesting about which binders like what. So the binder that we’re coming out with, in probably May it’ll come out, is a blend. And it does cover all the major microtoxin categories, plus it has a few ingredients to keep the bowels moving and kind of soothe the bowels because some people get constipated from binders, which is definitely not what we want as you go through the detox.

Bridgit:

And some people can’t tolerate binders, people are sensitive to different things. I just had a client share that she couldn’t tolerate binders, so she just did all her detox techniques like sauna and dry brushing and skipped the binder piece. So nothing is required to heal, especially if you’re having bowel movements, there’s other ways to encourage that. So yeah, we decided to do the combo approach. I’ll just also give a shout out too. There are other substances that are binders that are pretty awesome, like different immunoglobulins and saccharomyces boulardii yeast is a binder. Yeah. So I think there’s more and more in that category. So I kind of later would like to make a second binder that does all that, kind of in the gut. You just can’t really take a charcoal binder With a different supplement binder because it’s sort of working against itself. Yeah. So I’d like to later do a gut specific binder that has a different mechanism.

Amy:

So as you were talking about the binder, I heard you briefly mention some other detox techniques. I was wondering if you could kind of go into more detail about sauna. You mentioned saunas?

Bridgit:

Yeah. These are my favorite. Yeah. So when I was very sick, we just used a sauna at a gym. We were living in my parents’ home. They hadn’t moved into it yet, coincidentally, so we had it to ourselves. And they had a little clubhouse with a very simple sauna and I would use it. And it was one of the few things that helped me feel better. So that, and dry brushing were probably the first couple of things I found. And then later I added coffee enema, which I really liked and I still do about once a week. I love all the things that move. They really make me feel better, and they’re great for listening just throughout life, because we’re all exposed to toxins. It’s just our modern environment.

Bridgit:

So you can also use a rebounder, it’s like a tiny trampoline. You can get exercise outside, you can get a lymphatic massage, you can get a regular massage, you can get acupuncture. There’s so many options. And all of that movement just kind of keeps toxins from hanging out in a stagnant corner of your body. And it really seems to help move the needle on just facilitating that action of detox.

Amy:

All right. I have to ask about the coffee enema. If you are new to coffee enemas, and you’re not really sure what to do, what do you recommend? Are there resources, YouTube videos?

Bridgit:

Yeah. I think my most popular YouTube video is where I explain how to do coffee enemas. So people are definitely looking for it. I was resistant to it, like many people, just the thought of it. And then I had heard, well, if your bile duct is congested, you could really mess yourself up. And they were sort of not recommended to me in my functional training actually. But then I read about them in a book. I had heard of them, but Jay Davidson wrote a book that I read and I interviewed him and he was a fan of the coffee enema, and he had the recipe and everything. And I interviewed him and I’m like, should I try it? And he was like, yes. I mean, really to get started, you just need to follow the recipe, you need to buy a kit, you just buy it on Amazon. We need to buy some light roast, organic coffee, that’s really all the equipment you need.

Bridgit:

And then you need to just learn to do it. And you have to go slow at first because the only, I don’t know, discomfort or danger or whatever is you putting in liquid too quickly. Stimulating coffee liquid, this is going to make you want to go to the toilet so you have to kind of go slow with putting coffee in so that your body can kind of adjust. I usually do a little small warm up round to get my body used to it. And then my body’s used to it and I can retain more coffee in later rounds. And probably the first few times you’re going to do it. it’s going to be a little awkward. I still make mistakes, so to speak.

Bridgit:

I still sometimes go too fast or I don’t close off the valve and I lose all my coffee down the drain, but I actually really love it. And I love the time. I mean, once you’ve kind of put the coffee in, you just have some downtime. So I’ll often do my weekly planner – It’s like Saturday morning and I’m just chilling in the bathroom doing my coffee enema and it just makes me feel good and it’s just sort of like some me time.

Amy:

So just explain what’s actually happening it when you do that, how is it detoxing? It’s just sort of cleaning your bowels.

Bridgit:

Oh, right. Great question. So actually the main reason you do it, it does create some bowel movement, which can be good, especially if you tend toward constipation. But the main reason you do it, is the coffee is entering through the bloodstream to the liver in a pretty direct contact way so it’s vascularized. And there’s a compound in the coffee. I need to go look up the name, something, something acid that helps stimulate glutathione. I don’t know if it’s production or recycling, but it stimulates glutathione activity, we’ll say, which is a main antioxidant for the body. So now that’s getting into the blood supply to the liver where all your blood is passing at this rapid rate. Our whole blood supply passes through the liver in a really short amount of time. So your blood supply is exposed to this compound that helps you activate glutathione.

Bridgit:

So it’s basically kind of cleansing, doing an antioxidant function to your whole bloodstream as you sit there and have the coffee retained in your lower bowel, so that’s the activity. Many people ask me, well, can’t I just drink it? Yes, you can drink coffee, but it’s not the same effect. You’re digesting it in your stomach and that kind of a thing. So you may feel a little buzzy from a coffee enema but it’s not as strong and it’s just a different action, it’s a different kind of energy you feel. And you just have to experience it and try it a few times.

Bridgit:

You may not stick to it, but I would say give it at least three tries. Because if you give it one, you’re going to be like, this is weird. But if you give it a few, you start getting the hang of it, you’ll feel the benefits. You’d be shocked how many of my clients come to me already doing coffee enemas, didn’t even necessarily learn it from me. They’re just going through chronic illness and they benefit from coffee enemas. So I think there’s a whole secret society out there of people doing it.

Amy:

Thank you for sharing that, I’ve always been really curious. I’ve never done it, but maybe I’ll order a kit on Amazon and give it a try.

Bridgit:

Yeah. I think you’re a good candidate.

Amy:

Okay. I know, I’m very open minded so. But you mentioned glutathione and I know this is a question that I get asked a lot about is, can you just take N-acetyl cysteine? So a lot of women with PCOS are taking N-acetyl cysteine to help with insulin resistance and certainly to help support the liver. It helps with ovarian function. There’s a lot of benefits, but…

Bridgit:

Interesting.

Amy:

Glutathione it’s N-acetyl cysteine’s kind of a precursor. A lot of people wonder, should I just take glutathione or is NAC okay? I know you kind of addressed this in your book so I was hoping you could share that with us.

Bridgit:

Yeah. I think a lot of things in the health world, there’s lots of nuance to it. So NAC is one of the precursors to glutathione. You need three amino acids to make glutathione, but your liver in general needs a bunch of different nutrients, B vitamins and different amino acids. But just to focus on the glutathione molecule, NAC is a precursor that can help you make glutathione. It sometimes is more easily tolerated, I think I’ve heard from some people, it is also usually a little cheaper and it can make glutathione and then glutathione has an active and an inactive form. So the one that we are carrying has both NAC and one form of glutathione. S-Acetyl Glutathione, I think is ours.

Bridgit:

The other debate is, if glutathione is absorbable and there’s a lot of opinion out there that only liposomal glutathione is absorbable. But actually this type that we sell because of what’s attached to the molecule, the S-Acetyl molecule attached to the glutathione, it protects it from being broken down in the gut. It’s a capsule, so it actually is a form that has a lot of science behind it being absorbable. So again, there’s probably a lot of different debates. And I think taking it in some kind of form from some high quality source, I don’t know if you sell it, Amy, is a great idea. So, I’m not super picky on which source, We have a spray too, that we sell. It’s really gentle and good for kids. And it’s good for sensitive people because they can maybe only take a couple sprays. So that one is a micro ionized glutathione. So again, just lots of options out there, just depending on your budget, can you swallow pills? What research have you done?

Bridgit:

You may really like, like I know Ben Lynch sells the liposomal glutathione, and if you’re a big fan of his, you may be taking his. So yeah. I think it’s all beneficial really, as long as it’s in a quality form.

Amy:

Yeah. And just to be clear, I don’t think we preface that the glutathione is one of the supplements that you recommend for mold detox along with the binders and then the techniques like sauna and coffee enema and dry brushing. I know I like Epsom salt bath, is that something that you like for?

Bridgit:

Yeah, that made my top five actually. Yeah. I tried just because I felt like I had to organize things somehow for the book I picked my five top techniques and my five top supplements and then it goes on from there with lots of other options. But yeah, I picked Epsom salts, the magnesium and the sulfur in there are both good for your liver. Plus it’s a calming experience, which you need for healing.

Amy:

I know, I had one last night. And stress reduction, I think for women with PCOS, stress just really wreaks havoc. So I find that’s a great way to relax and it’s a bonus that you get these benefits of detoxification. And all of these things that you’re talking about, it’s not only going to help to detoxify the mycotoxins from mold, but other substances as well. Right?

Bridgit:

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So again, if you aren’t sure if you have mold, but you just want to learn more about detox, my website is a great source. We have tons of different blogs on Epsom salt baths and nasal rinses. All sorts of things you can do, which I think are just great for like longevity.

Amy:

And I know you mentioned that you have a masterclass too for, folks that want to learn more about mold toxicity and detoxing from that. So why don’t you tell us more about that offering and where we can find your book too?

Bridgit:

I’m not sure when this episode will come out, but it’s sort of no matter in a sense, because the event will run live to 21 to three six, but after that, if you catch this later, the link will still work to get seven days of free access. And so it’s a combo event, I give a little slide presentation every day based on kind of my opinions on how to go about this mold journey. And then I interview, I don’t know, 21 other experts. So we have two whole days on the home. So that’s helpful because that’s not my number one specialty.

Bridgit:

And then we’ve got different honestly really leading experts in the field of functional mold recovery. So we have Jill Carnahan and Beth O’Hara. Jabban Moore is doing a lot of work with mold. So they talk about what they’re focused on and their practices right now, what’s working for them, what co-infections could be involved. So it’s really honestly top notch emerging content I what is still a pretty developing field. We don’t totally know everything about mold yet so we put that together kind of in honor of the book so people can know we’ve got this book coming out so people can kind of know I exist and then the book will be released on Amazon, April 4th. So kind of just after the event. So it’ll be on pre-order by the time this episode airs.

Bridgit:

And it’s just a great resource to have because the process is long. It’s going to be a lot of questions that come up about what you can keep or not keep in your house, which supplements to take, which tests to run, if your gut is upset, we talk about hormone testing. So I just tried to be really thorough with pretty much any question a person might have.

Amy:

Yeah. It’s really an excellent resource, especially coming from you, Bridgit, who had already had that background in women’s hormone health. So, I think your resources are perfect for anyone listening that thinks that this might be a factor in their health issues. Definitely check out Bridgit’s website and just, I will put it in the show notes, but just so you know, the spelling it’s B-R-I-D-G-I-T-D-A-N-N-E-R.com, bridgitdanner.com. So Bridgit, thank you so much for coming back on. We can’t let it go so many years in between.

Bridgit:

I know. Wow. I know it’s crazy to think about. Well, I’ll have to have you on because I know you do a lot of work around toxins and hormones and I know you’ve studied with Laura too, right?

Amy:

Yes, yes. Yeah. And we worked to work on my sparkle cleanse, which is actually running right now.

Bridgit:

Oh, awesome.

Amy:

Yeah. My 14 day cleanse to help, women with PCOS to detox, really support their liver to help with all this type of detoxification. But it really just helps you, and you know what it’s like when your brain fog is lifted and you have more energy. Just kind of like…

Bridgit:

Oh yeah, people love those cleanses, don’t they?

Amy:

Yeah, I know. So I know, actually I have to go have my first shake of the day.

Bridgit:

Oh, you’re in it right now?

Amy:

Yeah. I always do it with everybody as well. So it’s so cold out right now that I’m kind of putting it off. I’m I’m not anxious to have a cold shake, but I think about how good I’m going to feel when this is over.

Bridgit:

Oh yeah, I am so cold blooded. Yeah. People love it. That’s sort of how I started in my clinic before I knew I had mold, I started doing these two or three week detoxes and people would love it. They would come back and do it again.

Amy:

Because you just feel so good. You don’t feel so good the first four days, but then you really feel good.

Bridgit:

Well thank you for having me.

Amy:

Yeah. And thank you everyone for listening. I look forward to being with you again very soon. Bye bye.

 

 

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