The ancient art of sugaring for hair removal [Podcast with Salome Sallehy]

“That was such a big aha moment for me because I thought I tried everything. What is this sugar? Why is my skin not reacting to it? I look and feel amazing, and it wasn’t torture. So, that was sort of my journey of discovering sugaring”

Women with PCOS often struggle with excess hair growth. Many women have tried different hair removal techniques from electrolysis, at-home lasers, waxing, or threading.

I came across a product that is a natural at-home option for hair removal and I am delighted to share it with you on today’s podcast. I speak with Salome Sallehy, the founder and president of Sugar Sugar Wax. She shares all the benefits of sugar waxing and how it can really help women with PCOS. This hair removal technique is really new to me, but I’ve tried it out and I’m so impressed with the results.

Listen in as we discuss:

• What is sugaring
• Why is it a great hair removal method for women with PCOS
• Step by step instructions on how to use Sugar Sugar Wax
• When the best time to wax is based on the different hair growth phases
• Hair positivity – empowering women to not feel shame around body hair

 

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Resources mentioned:

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www.sugarsugarwax.com

As the founder and president of Sugar Sugar Wax Salome now oversees manufacturing, product development, sales channels, and community development. As if that doesn’t keep her busy enough she also is leading the charge on educating the public on clean beauty and ingredient toxicity in cosmetics and personal care products through Natural Beauty Summit.

 

 

 

 

Transcript:

Amy Medling:
Welcome to the PCOS Diva Podcast. We are going to be talking about a topic that is really important to move beyond, I talk a lot about moving beyond the pain and struggles of PCOS so that you can live the life you are meant to live without PCOS holding you back, and for so many years, hair growth, hirsutism, held me back. And it wasn’t until I was able to afford laser hair removal that it really made such a difference in my life.

Amy Medling:
And I’ve explored some other different hair loss techniques over the years, let’s see, from electrolysis to at-home lasers to waxing and threading, but this hair removal technique that we’re going to talk about today is something that is really new to me and I’m just, I’ve tried it out, and I’m so impressed with the results that I had to share it with PCOS Divas. So, I’m thrilled to welcome Salome micellar. She is the founder and president of Sugar Sugar Wax, and she’s going to share with us today really all the joys of sugar waxing and how it can really help women with PCOS. So welcome, Salome.

Salome Sallehy:
Thank you so much for having me, Amy. I’m excited to have this conversation. I know hair is a struggle for so many different people, for so many different reasons. And I know from when I was like 10 or 11 years old, looking down at my leg thinking, “It’s just hair. It can’t be this complicated.” So I’m excited to be where I am with a solution that’s not complicated.

Amy Medling:
Well, and we’ve spoken previously on the phone. You gave me a full demo, and since then I’ve had some time to sort of play with the sugar wax, but you had a really powerful story that you shared with me and I’d love for you to share that story with our listeners.

Salome Sallehy:
Yeah, absolutely. Well, I’m Middle Eastern, and Middle Eastern women, we tend to have more hair than most other people. I mean, I shouldn’t say that. There’s definitely, I’ve learned through the business that there are certain cultures and ethnicities that tend to have more hair problems than others. But when I was little, I loved swimming. And I remember I was around 10 or so years old when I started noticing the other people noticing the hair on my legs, and that just made me feel a lot of shame around the hair.

Salome Sallehy:
Back then, our culture, as a young girl, you don’t remove hair so soon. I don’t know why that is, but it’s a thing, and so I wasn’t allowed to shave, and here I was feeling kind of hairy and it being noticed by my peers, so I actually stopped swimming, and I didn’t go back to swimming until I was 14 and allowed to shave and do all the things where I can kind of approach the pool with a little bit more confidence.

Amy Medling:
Yeah. And I think that’s kind of what we’re getting at is moving beyond that pain of having excess hair where you don’t want it so that you don’t have to give up the things that you love to do and you can really engage in life again. So, you had a little story about when you were traveling and-

Salome Sallehy:
Oh, yeah.

Amy Medling:
… and how that led to you discovering sugar wax.

Salome Sallehy:
So, I have actually tried every method of hair removal. All the years growing up, I was probably 13 or 14 when I had a professional wax warmer in the bathroom, and making messes and not being able to clean them up, and shaving and cutting every corner of myself. I’ve tried it all. The hair sandpaper thing, the chemical creams, leaving them on too long and finding that your pores have kind of melted closed. That is not a good situation.

Salome Sallehy:
So basically, all my life I had tried everything and I’ve kind of landed on a combination of laser and then maintenance with waxing was what I was doing, and for my face, I would do threading. But I also have this super, super sensitive skin that I actually have a histamine reaction to hair being removed from the follicle. So when I get my face threaded, I would break out in hives.

Salome Sallehy:
So here we are traveling the world, which was such an exciting time, and we’re like three months into the trip I’m like, “Oh, I need some maintenance here.” So I find a salon that does threading, and I go there and I have to warn the lady who’s going to thread my face. I’m like, “Just so you know, I have this crazy reaction and you’re going to start seeing hives, but that’s normal.” And she says to me, “Well, if you’re that sensitive, why aren’t you sugaring?”

Salome Sallehy:
And being someone who thought I had tried every method of hair removal, I’m like, “What’s sugaring?” She’s like, “Well, it’s kind of like a wax.” I’m like, “Absolutely not. I’ve tried that. It’s ripped my skin off, left a line on my face. I’m not about that.” She’s like, “Let me just try it on you.”

Salome Sallehy:
Anyway, that was sort of the beginning of the end because I walked out of that appointment, and my husband, who had obviously seen me so many times after getting threaded and looking like I stuck my face in a beehive, was like, “What’d you do? Did you get a facial? You left the kids with me for an hour and a half to get a facial?” And I’m like, “No, I did this thing called sugaring.” He’s like, “Well, I don’t know what it is, but I’ve never seen you glow like this.”

Salome Sallehy:
So that was such a big aha moment for me because I was like, I thought I tried everything. What is this sugar? Why is my skin not reacting to it? I look and feel amazing, and it wasn’t like torture. So, that was sort of my journey of discovering sugaring.

Amy Medling:
So, can you explain what sugaring is? I hadn’t really heard of it when you all reached out to me, and I was a skeptic because I have waxed before and have had skin ripped off in the process, so I was very hesitant, but explain first of all what it is, kind of give us a Sugar 101.

Salome Sallehy:
Absolutely. So, not all sugars are made the same, so that’s really important to know. So just because it says sugar wax on the label, it doesn’t mean it’s sugaring wax, and it’s a small technicality. But because sugaring has become popular, some products will put sugar wax on it and they have sugar in the ingredients, but it’s actually applied like conventional wax, so that’s not it.

Salome Sallehy:
Sugaring wax, which is what we have, is basically a sugar-based substance. I think it’s over 98% sugar, and it’s basically processed in a way that it’s like tree sap and it’s meant to hold together. What’s really special about sugar or sugaring wax is that, unlike any other sticky method of hair removal, this is formulated only to stick to dead skin, and hair has the same molecular structure as dead skin.

Salome Sallehy:
So when you apply it, you apply it by hand, not with strips and spatulas, and you apply it the opposite of waxing, so you go against the direction of hair and you remove it in the direction of hair. And because of the fact that it doesn’t actually adhere to any of your live skin cells, it doesn’t rip your skin off. It doesn’t hurt as much, or it … I mean, you tried it yourself. I think I say it doesn’t hurt as much because, when you’re removing any hair from the follicle that has never been removed before, you are going to feel something because those follicles have a relationship with nerve endings. But if you’ve waxed or removed the hair with threading or anything like that where the hairs come out fully from the follicle, you won’t feel it with sugaring.

Salome Sallehy:
It also means that you can’t burn because it’s applied at room temperature, and if you have any kind of sensitivities like I do, or a lot of our customers that have PCOS and then they have the added layer of complication with acne, you can sugar it because it’s not ripping off your skin. It’s just removing the hair, and also giving you this amazing, beautiful exfoliation. So it’s kind of like it removes the hair like waxing does, but you’re not left with all this waste. And with sugar, the sugar lump that you start removing hair with, you reuse it eight to 10 times, so you get a lot more mileage, and then the best part is you throw it in the compost. It’s biodegradable.

Amy Medling:
So you all sent me a kit, and I opened the kit, and I was super overwhelmed just because I think because I’ve had bad experience with at-home waxing. So you kind of walked me through the different steps, and I was hoping, we’re going to record this also as a video and I will put it up on YouTube, so for those of you used to listening to the PCOS Diva Podcast, you can head over to YouTube and you’ll be able to see this video as well to see the actual demo. But why don’t you walk us through the steps and just show us how easy it is?

Salome Sallehy:
I would love to. So one thing I want to say, you’re feeling of kind of feeling overwhelmed when you open a box and there is nothing but four products in there, that’s kind of normal and that’s what we’ve come to find. Because sugaring is so different than any other method of hair removal, we’re like, “Well where’s the strips? Where’s the spatula? Where’s the booklet of instructions?” And almost the oversimplification of it is what’s overwhelming because it’s just four products.

Salome Sallehy:
So, I’m going to go through each of them, and product number one is, step number one, is our Clean Slate. It’s micellar cleansing water, and everything in our line is designed for the most sensitive skin because obviously me. But-

Amy Medling:
Yeah, and I also just wanted to point out too that as women with PCOS, we’re really trying to avoid endocrine disruptors too, and there’s so many endocrine disruptors in beauty products, so that was the other thing that I liked about your products is they’re very clean.

Salome Sallehy:
Yeah. And thank you for mentioning that. I almost take that for granted because I feel like at this point, with everything that we know, clean should be basic table stakes, and I don’t think it is, but we are definitely as clean as you can get. I mean, I’ll even go through the ingredients with you, but this product is micellar cleansing water. We formulate and produce this one in France. It’s ophthalmologist tested, dermatologist tested. It’s EU certified. So we have that European Union standards that we don’t have here in America because we produce it in Europe.

Salome Sallehy:
But the reason why we have this as step one is, whenever you’re removing hair from the follicle, that pore that the follicle is coming out of, it’s going to stay open for a little period of time, so it’s really important to start the process of hair removal with a Clean Slate because while that pore is open, if you have any oil or dirt, just like from ambient, from being outside, from exhaust fumes, from any of the toxins, just hanging out on your skin, it’s going to climb into that open pore, and that’s what causes breakouts and irritation and redness and bumps.

Salome Sallehy:
So we always recommend start with a Clean Slate. What this does is it removes dirt, oil, makeup, and it also balances the pH of your skin, which a lot of cleansing products you’ll have that over strip the skin, and you don’t want that because your skin’s going to get tight and it’s going to make the whole process more difficult, but it also changes the pH balance. So you want to maintain your pH balance but really have a Clean Slate, and I love this product. This has replaced my daily cleanser, toner, and eye makeup remover, and it’s so super gentle.

Salome Sallehy:
So once you have a Clean Slate, the second product is the Detox Dust, and this is a natural … All the ingredients are natural food-grade ingredients in here, so it’s super clean. It’s clay based powder, and this is important because sugar is really different than wax in that, because it’s water-soluble, which makes it super easy to clean up, like if you get it in your hair, you just wash it out. But it also makes it so that water creates a barrier.

Salome Sallehy:
So in order for the sugar to really stick to the hair and the dead skin, you want us to have a really dry surface. And when you’re sugaring areas like the upper lip, under arms, bikini, those are the really sweat … They’re the areas that sweat first, and the skin’s natural reaction to hair coming out of the follicle is to start to perspire.

Salome Sallehy:
So this powder, you apply it after you’ve cleansed. There’s also a nice essential oil blend in here that keeps kind of that clean antibacterial surface on the skin while you’re sugaring, but there’s nothing, there’s like no fragrances in here. It smells amazing, but that’s from essential oils. There’s clay. There’s chamomile powder to just kind of calm the skin during this process.

Salome Sallehy:
So I’m going to, for example, I’m just going to show you. I’m just going to do it on my arm so everyone can see. So I spray, and for a larger area, I’ll just use a towel to kind of clean it. When you’re doing the face … Oh, you can actually see, I don’t know if you could see there, but there’s a little bit of dirt that it picks up. But if you’re doing your face, just use a cotton pad, and then I’ll take my powder and I’ll kind of put it on, and I’ll work it in because this powder is designed to absorb moisture, so the more I work it into the pores, the dryer it’s going to get.

Salome Sallehy:
And step three is our beautiful Glow Goop Sugar Wax, and I always like to say keep the second seal because you don’t want to leave this open for hours and hours in a steamy bathroom while you’re sugaring because it will absorb ambient moisture.

Salome Sallehy:
So how you know it’s ready, the consistency is really key with sugaring. Once you get the consistency, and I think that’s the hardest thing for people to get, once you get the consistency, then you can literally sugar anything, anywhere, in minutes. It’s so easy. But because we’re so wax bias, we expect it to be runny, and it’s not supposed to be runny.

Salome Sallehy:
So the way I test to see if my sugar is ready, and you could see I’ve already kind of done this, I’ll poke a finger in it, make a dent, like make a good deep dent, but there’s no sugar stuck on my fingers. If this was too soft, then there’ll be like stringy bits stuck to my fingers coming out, and then I know it’s too soft. Maybe I want to plop it in the fridge for a couple of minutes. But this formula is adaptive, and it’s going to actually warm up on your skin when you apply it, so you want to start with it a little bit hard. So what I do is it takes some effort, and then I pinch out a little bump. There you go. Yeah, you’ve got the-

Amy Medling:
Yeah. So mine’s the right consistency I think.

Salome Sallehy:
Yeah. And then you can see it kind of really holds its shape, and that’s what makes this really easy to use. It’s not like runny like honey and you’re not chasing it. You kind of mold it. So I got-

Amy Medling:
It really just feels, I mean, it is sugar. It feels like a piece of taffy, like the … Yeah.

Salome Sallehy:
It really is. And you can eat it. My children do. I don’t recommend eating it because I personally don’t like to eat sugar and I don’t think it’s good for you, but your kids may try to sneak a bite.

Salome Sallehy:
Okay. So when you are new to sugaring, so I’m just going to put my jar down and I’m going to just put this seal right back on it just to cover it. So, just to create a little bit of a barrier. Now, I’m doing my right arm. I don’t know if you could see my hair, but guys, you know how I talked about being Persian and hairy. I actually have a full arm of hair, but you can’t … It’s like it’s almost invisible. The hair has become so fine from sugaring. My arm is one area that I never lasered, but like, there was a good bit of hair. But once you sugar regularly, the hair just grows back finer, and that’s a natural biological response because your skin has to keep producing and reproducing that follicle and it gets tired. We’re going to talk about that later.

Salome Sallehy:
And the application, I’m actually going to apply it this way, is the opposite of waxing. You apply it against the direction of hair so that when you remove it, it goes in the direction of hair, and that’s really important because when we wax and the hair snaps back when you rip it off, you get 30% breakage, which is why you start to see regrowth in as little as two weeks, and we want to get as much mileage out of our hair removal as possible, so by removing the hair in the direction of growth, then it’s not breaking as much. You have less than 10% breakage with sugaring.

Salome Sallehy:
Okay, at first, my little lump of sugar is you could see quite hard. It’s like tree sappy. And my first application’s going to take a little bit of effort, so I’m going to first put it on the skin and just hold it for a second, let my skin warm it up, so that when I pull it against the direction of hair like that, it goes on like this. And I pull it twice and I pull it a third time, because I really want to give the sugar a second to bind to the hair and dead skin.

Salome Sallehy:
And when you look at it, I’ve got a little bit more volume up here. It’s sticky, but that’s okay because it’s just sugar. I can wash it off. And I want to have the volume up here because that’s what I’m going to hold onto and that’s my leverage.

Salome Sallehy:
So then I kind of flick it back like that, and because it’s a longer one, then I’m going to press down again and flick it back again. And then that absorbs the hair and the dead skin. I don’t know if you could see those little flaky bits in there, but the more I do it, the more you get to see it, and then I just roll it back up into a ball because I find it’s easiest to control when it’s in the shape of a ball, and I do it again. And I do one, two, and we call this the triple pull technique.

Salome Sallehy:
Guys, this is a little bit of a slower process at first, and then when you do the flick … Ooh, look at that fuzzy. When you do the flick, you want to stay close to the skin, and if I were to show you, my wrist is kind of doing this 180. I’m not pulling it up. If I was pulling it up, like hold on, let me show you what not to do.

Salome Sallehy:
So let’s say I get it on, right? And instead of pulling it back, let’s say I start to pull it up. You could see that it’s pulling my skin up and that’s not going to feel good. We want to pull it back, and just do it quickly, and it gets the hair. And honestly, I’ve gotten really good at this and I can manage the consistency, so I can use this to do my whole arm, no problem. This is all the wax that you need. If I was going to use a strips and spatula type of wax, even if it was called a sugar wax, I would go through half a jar to do an arm, and this is only all I need. When you’re new to it, you are only going to get about eight or 10 uses out of it, and you’ll know. When it gets too soft and it look starts to look pasty and it doesn’t want to hold together as much, and it just takes a little bit of practice, and then before you know it, you’re sugaring all the fuzz you don’t want away.

Salome Sallehy:
But whatever fuzz you are enjoying and you love having, don’t sugar it. And I want to say that because it’s really important for us as a brand, growing up in a time of … or having had the experience of shame around hair, it’s really important for us as a brand not to shame people into using our products because hair is natural, everyone has it, and we’re all about hair positivity. But if there’s hair that bothers you and you don’t like it and you want to get rid of it, this is a tool that we like to think of as just empowerment so that you’re not at the mercy of appointments or whatever. It’s just a little something that you have to remove the hair that you don’t want, but you keep the hair that you do want and we’ll celebrate that with you.

Amy Medling:
Well, I think what I liked about this product is it solves a lot of problems with typical hair removal, especially for women on their face, is shaving. And shaving, you end up with those little bumps, and a lot of women end up with a five o’clock shadow at the end of the day. And that is really, it’s really difficult to deal with. And also, when it comes to lasering, you often have to let that hair grow out to a certain point in order to get the laser, and what I love about the sugaring is it kind of avoids all those issues.

Salome Sallehy:
Yeah. So those are really good points, and you’ve touched on so many of them. I’d love to just elaborate on it a little bit more. I know I’m kind of playing with this. And one of the things with facial hair is you’re out in the world every single day. It’s not like bikini season and you’re exposing it when you want to and not exposing it when you don’t. So, having a hair removal solution that gives you more time without hair I think is really important.

Salome Sallehy:
The other thing with sugaring is that you don’t need to wait for the hair to be super long to sugar it. It’s not like waxing. Everything you think you know about waxing doesn’t apply to this. With sugar, you need the … As long as the hair on top of the skin is longer than what’s underneath the skin, you’re going to have enough leverage to get it out. And the reason why I put it that way is because hair in your underarms and bikini and your brows, they’re a little bit more deeply rooted. It’s just a little bit shy of an eighth of an inch of root, so you need about an eighth of an inch of length in order to be able to pull it out. And an eighth of an inch is about half a green of rice, and you need double that for waxing.

Salome Sallehy:
But when you have shorter hair, like upper lip hair, it’s very shallow, like it’s very superficially rooted. So, even if it’s just a tiny little stubble, you’re going to get it out. So as soon as you see hair, you’re able to sugar it, and the more you practice your flick and your triple pull, the easier it becomes.

Salome Sallehy:
And shaving, I hate shaving. I really hate shaving, and I hate it because there’s so much research that actually isn’t in the world or isn’t in the mainstream media. You have to go digging for it like we did. But shaving actually damages the skin, which is why you get those razor bumps and that irritation because skin is not flat. It’s not like the smoothness of this computer or this. It’s not flat like this. Skin, because it grows in tiny little microscopic scales, kind of does this on the surface. And when you’re shaving, you’re over stripping it.

Salome Sallehy:
So when you over strip the skin, it reacts by trying to recover because it’s your body’s barrier system. Right? It’s your body’s first defense. So you get rapid regrowth of skin, which causes ingrown hairs, which causes that redness and bumps and irritation. It’s just your skin trying to protect you and itself. And a lot of people don’t talk about that. And like you said, you have a five o’clock shadow, or best case scenario, tomorrow you have to do it again.

Salome Sallehy:
So the first time you shave your face, feels, looks amazing. Two, three weeks in and you start to notice. I can’t tell you how many people reach out to us and they’re like, “My skin was just over shaving. I couldn’t stop doing it, but I was breaking out, I was having all these skin issues. My skin was dry and patchy and scaly. And then I started sugaring.” And sugaring actually helps you heal from all of those things, like the razor bumps, the scar tissue, the microscopic scar tissue that starts to build around the pores when you’re shaving. By exfoliating them with sugar consistently, you actually start to heal all of that.

Salome Sallehy:
And because you’re not removing live skin cells with sugar, your skin isn’t panicking, so it’s not regrowing rapidly, and that’s why you never get ingrown hairs with sugaring. Actually, I’ll tell you a story, the only time I’ve ever gotten an ingrown hair with sugar is in the winter months when my skin is already dry. I have pretty dry skin to begin with, and the hair takes so long to grow back after sugaring, and then the buildup of the skin is the only time that I’ll see one or two ingrown hairs. But it’s never a thing in my underarms, bikini, never on my face, and it just leaves you so smooth. I just can’t stop harping on this fact.

Amy Medling:
It does. It does. I was really surprised, honestly, and I don’t usually do this and have people come and talk about their products on the podcast, but I really do think that your product, which is really first to market in terms of an at-home sugar kit, it just really solves a problem for so many of us with PCOS. So you have one more step in the kit.

Salome Sallehy:
Yes. So I just want to just show here. So after I’ve sugared, I can just take a damp cloth and just take off any sugar residue if there’s any stickiness, and then the last product is probably one of my favorites. It’s a hyaluronic acid serum we call Silk Slip. This also has cotton leaf extract in it, which acts as a protective barrier, just kind of a little very thin layer of armor against the elements to protect your skin when those pores are open.

Salome Sallehy:
And it’s a serum, it just goes on really, really beautifully, and the hyaluronic acid is plant-based. So what hyaluronic acid does is it plumps up the skin cells, which kind of starts that process of the pores closing back up and just gives you a little protection.

Salome Sallehy:
After you remove hair from the follicle, regardless of what method you’re using, typically I don’t recommend using a heavy lotion or oils. And oils, if you’re using like an olive oil, the molecules are so large that you’re not going to have this issue, but most cosmetic oils have very small molecules and they are comedogenic. So they’ll get into the pores that are open, clog them up, cause irritation, maybe breakouts, and this, it just disappears on your skin, just gives you a little bit of nourishment, a little moisture, a little protection, and you’re done.

Salome Sallehy:
And as long as you’re using something water-based after sugaring or, again, any method of hair removal from the follicle, you should be good. Just don’t use oils. But I love this serum. I use it every day just because it’s a really nice nourishing moisturizer without being overly heavy.

Amy Medling:
So when we were talking and some of the information that you sent to me, you had some anecdotal, I guess, information based on your clients, folks that are using your sugar wax in terms of hair regrowth, so I just wanted you to share that.

Salome Sallehy:
Okay. Are we talking about the biohack?

Amy Medling:
Yeah, yeah.

Salome Sallehy:
Yeah. So one of the symptoms that comes with hirsutism and PCOS, and they’re not always related. Sometimes someone might have hirsutism and it’s not PCOS related, but oftentimes these two things go hand in hand, and the hair growth can be really quick. It tends to be accelerated.

Salome Sallehy:
And one of the things that I love sharing, and we’ve tested this now, and have learned that you can actually slow down hair growth by as much as 50%, hair regrowth. And the way you do that is that the follicle has a relationship with a blood vessel that feeds it, and the nerve endings that support it. And when you remove the hair from the follicle, the pore starts immediately regenerating a new follicle, and that starts to grow a hair.

Salome Sallehy:
So one of the things that we have learned is that when you remove hair from the follicle while it’s in the early stages of the antigen hair growth phase, and you do it a few times consecutively, the biology of the skin changes and the follicle becomes a lot weaker, and the skin is not as adamant about reproducing a follicle at the same rate as it was doing before, because now it’s been kind of depleted of its energy a few times.

Salome Sallehy:
So, one of the things I love recommending is when you start sugaring, do it, when you sugar, keep an eye on it, a week or two, maximum three weeks later, as soon as you see hair again, do it again. And you do that in three consecutive cycles, and you will notice that the hair is growing back slower and finer. And I think for those people who have that coarser hair on the face or wherever that you don’t want to see it, it can be a game changer, just slowing that down, giving yourself more time between sugaring sessions.

Amy Medling:
Yeah, I think a lot of ladies listening would love that to happen. I know that that’s been great for me in terms of keeping on top of my at home lasering. That has really helped, but I don’t … I’m just lasering my chin area. I am going to try this sugar on other areas and see how that goes, but I’ve loved even just that those finer hairs on your face, it’s done a wonderful job. And you’re right, it gives you kind of a facial spa glow afterwards. So, I love the product. I love the product, and I really just wanted you to come on and demystify. First educate, demystify, and it’s just something to add to your PCOS toolbox.

Salome Sallehy:
I am so happy to hear you say that, and that’s why we do what we do. I grew up in the Battle of the Fuzz, and if I can do something to just save other women, other girls from going through like, oh, my God, what I went through, that really powerless feeling of, “Why is this one thing so hard?” That’s really why I do what I do. It’s to save other people from having to go through that.

Amy Medling:
Yeah. It’s wanting to be, what’s the expression, be kind of like a manual, like your experience being a manual for someone else’s problems. And that’s what you’re doing, and it’s awesome, so thank you, Salome. And also, you generously offered to give us a coupon code.

Salome Sallehy:
Yes.

Amy Medling:
So can you tell us where to find Sugar Sugar Wax and give us the coupon code?

Salome Sallehy:
Absolutely. So Sugar Sugar Wax is available on our website, sugarsugarwax.com. We are also on Amazon. We are also on Urban Outfitters, I’m pretty sure on urbanoutfitters.com. I’m not sure if we’re in Canada, but we are in Canada on Amazon. But the coupon code I have for you guys today is only for our website, and it is PCOSDIVA15. So all caps, PCOSDIVA and then the number 15, and you get 15% off your order, and you know, we are here to help and support you. And I know it can be a different way of doing things, so we’ve got tons of videos on our YouTube. We do tutorials. I love doing these demos. And if you’re stuck and you’re like, “I can’t get this to work for me,” or whatever you’re having trouble with, just shoot us an email and we’re happy to hop on a phone, a call, a Zoom, FaceTime. Whatever we can do to make your life better, we’re here for it.

Amy Medling:
That’s so wonderful. Thank you. And I know that being a business owner myself, it’s hard. It’s hard to … And there’s so many roadblocks that kind of come along your path as you’re trying to help women, and so I appreciate you just keeping traveling on your journeys. I know it was difficult to come up with this formula, so thank you.

Salome Sallehy:
Well, thank you for saying that. And as an entrepreneur, it is really hard because there’s so many variables. There’s so much up and down. But I think the thing that has really kept me on this path has been when I hear from our customers and they say, “Thank God for this,” or I was at an event and I met someone with PCOS, and she had a hard time with her facial hair, and I just sugared her in a couple of minutes, and she started crying, and I knew I had made a difference. And it’s because I know I’m making a difference that helps me stay in it, but thank you for acknowledging the journey, because it’s hard.

Amy Medling:
I know, I know. Well, and everybody on your PCOS, healing PCOS journey listening, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you, Salome, for your time and your wonderful demo, and I look forward to being with you all again very soon. Bye-bye.

Salome Sallehy:
Thank you, Amy. It’s been so much fun chatting with you.

Amy Medling:
Thank you, Salome, and we’ll see you all very soon. Bye-bye.